make_your_move: (bellydance Mym (2)_)
Due to the public outcry on this being a poor decision, this Response on the Pennsic Website )

letter has been written. The tone of which still strikes me as - "rules are there for a reason, and we're doing this for your own good .... "

I'm still working on my letter. This is the wrong road to be going down.
make_your_move: (angry)
My good friend [ profile] liamstliam posted about this in his journal last night and frankly I am appalled. Apparently the PTB (powers that be) have decided that youth should no longer be allowed to attend classes w/o a parent or guardian present. Despite that fact that they may fight (heavy weapons) on the list field and drive into and out of Pennsic (with a proper drivers license). This policy will severely cripple the enthusiasm and attendance of the next generation.

If you are active in the SCA - please take a moment to read this and write to the addresses included. I've enclosed to letters that are being written as examples.

New Pennsic University policy this year:

No youths under the age of 18 may attend activities in an A&S venue without
a parent or legal guardian.

Among other things, that means classes in public A&S tents.

Someone wrote to the Pennsic Mayor, and his response was:

"As an official staffer, please refer them to Mistress Chai, Deputy Mayor of
Cultural Affairs. She and Ardenia, Deputy Mayor of Event Resources and
Society Youth Officer, worked this policy out after much deliberation."

Chai is at

Ardenia's is

In another e-mail, someone suggested the following addresses as well.

SCA Board of Directors:

Ombudsman for Legal Committee:
Baron Aaron Palomides of Buckminster
Aaron L. (Rusty) Lloyd

Ombudsman for A&S:
Dux Lucius Aurelius Valharic
Tom Noble

Personally, I see this as extremely ill-advised. I think it will badly damage the future of the Society, particularly if it becomes a Society rule, not use a Pennsic rule.

I think it also sends an unfortunate message you our youth, especially our middle teen-agers, that we do not trust them.

I believe I understand the genesis of the rule, and I hope to hear back on that.

I could rant for another 50 lines with the reasons I think this is wrong.

I think the important thing right now is to see if we can get this changed before Pennsic. That’s why I included the addresses.

I would also comment that I think this issue is far more important than cannons at 8 a.m.

I am not suggesting that our discussion rival that one, but in this case I do think it’s worth writing a letter or two.

I am not suggesting mailing to all those addresses, but I do think a couple are worth it.

This is [ profile] evilnicola letter - very powerful as she is only 23 years old and quite accomplished:

I am a baroness of the court, companion of the order of the Silver Crescent (East Kingdom Service Award), companion of the order of the Tyger's Cub (East Kingdom Youth Award), Companion of the Queen's Order of Courtesy, and twice recipient of the Queen's Honor of Distinction.

I am also 23.

I am a heavy fighter, a youth marshal, and have been a head lady-in-waiting to the Queen. I host a party for teenagers in East Kingdom Royal every Pennsic.

Growing up in the SCA, I was given many opportunities that allowed me to become the active and committed member of the SCA that I am today. Adults allowed me to volunteer at events, such as Pennsic Lost and Found, in kitchens, on list fields assisting the MoLs, and in many other places. Mistress Ardenia herself helped me to create the East Kingdom Teen Party when I was 15.

When I wanted to learn more about aspects of the SCA that my parents and household couldn't help me with, I was able to attend classes at Pennsic to learn them, cementing my interest in the SCA. I spent one Pennsic attending drumming class every single day, saving up my ice-run money to buy my own doumbek. When I became interested in viking culture, I was able to learn about it from someone else who was deeply interested.

Disallowing those under 18 to attend classes on their own is a great way to alienate teenagers and drive them away from our society. It will not keep anyone safer. Those teens who wanted to attend classes, but are not able to because Mom and Dad are on the fighting field, or working security or any number of other reasons, will have nothing constructive to do.

The youth of our society are our future. Every time rules such as this are passed, we push out the next generation of scadians, driving them to find different hobbies, where they are allowed to participate.

It also seems highly hypocritical that 16 and 17 year-olds who are authorized in their own kingdom can fight on the heavy list field with the adults this Pennsic, but can't attend a class on, say, tablet weaving, by themselves.

Baroness Leonete D'Angely.

And from [ profile] jtdiii


I have recently caught wind of grumbling from several camp members who were upset about a rule change that the A&S community has implemented:

University Policies

1. New this Pennsic: no youth under the age of 18 may attend activities
in an A&S venue without a parent or legal guardian.

While this may be a well intentioned policy, like too many other recent policy decisions of Pennsic and the SCA as a whole, it is being implemented poorly and with insufficient notice and consideration.

First and foremost a major change such as this should be made early and with sufficient notice that parents who might be affected can arrange other plans. slipping it in without advanced warning after the pre-registration period is over, on an out of the way web page that most Pennsic attendees will not even read is not sufficient notice.

You might also want to explain to the populace why 16 and 17 year olds can fight heavy with authorizations, \are allowed to drive cars around and out of the camp unsupervised, but they cannot be trusted to take a basket weaving class? Will you also be requiring similar parental supervision for all other under 18 year old activities? If not, please explain why they do not require similar supervision. Why is a class, A&S point or an A&S exhibit now so dangerous that a seventeen year old now needs parental supervision?

In the past, I have had A&S classes held in my camp , does this now mean that if one is held again, I have to tell the teenagers who live in our camp or who visit from the one next door, whose parents might not be around, that they now have to leave camp?

In previous years, older teenagers were allowed to wander during the day without parental supervision. Has this policy changed? Or is it that if a class starts at the Performing Arts Tent, the Dance tent, Youth Point, or Heralds point, that unaccompanied teenagers are expected to leave those areas? Or is it that an unaccompanied minor may no longer enter any of those locations because a class may be held there?

You have just made a major detrimental change in how welcoming the SCA is to teenagers and their parents. Effectively you have made all older teenagers less able to entertain themselves in a productive and inclusive manner. All this will do is to increase the number of teenagers who hang out at the bath house or along the busker alley getting in trouble.

One of the things about the SCA that used to convince children of members to stay in the SCA is that we trusted them and did not treat them as incompetants who needed to be monitored at all times. I am disappointed to see that the A&S community has chosen to be amongst the leaders in driving away future Scadians.

Sincerely Yours

John McGuire, OL, OP


Please take a moment of your time and write to them if you feel this is a bad idea. I will repost my letter once it's finished.
make_your_move: (Default)
So, I"m off to volunteer at the girls school for "Jump rope for Heart day".

Go outside, soak in the sunshine. You'll be glad you did :)
make_your_move: (mym thoughtful)
Well, shortly after I posted this afternoon, S woke abruptly from her sleep and barely made it to the bathroom before losing the water and little bit of chicken soup. Her temp? 104.2 *sigh* So, one call to the advice line yielded a late afternoon trip to the pediatrician to rule out strep. After another episode of losing her cookies and a few other pokes and prods....

Final result .... no strep, just a nasty stomach virus. Fever, vomiting for 12 to 24 hours, then maybe the other end for another day or so.

Looks like it's going to be a long week.
make_your_move: (avatar)
Well, the good news is she hasn't thrown up all day. But she still has the nasty headache and she's been sleeping a good part of the day. Me .. well, there's been laundry, cuddling and reading, movie, reading, knitting, cuddling, trip to market (Widgeon got home from school so I could go), sleeping kid, updating internet. Okay, not a bad way to spend the day - just wish she wasn't so sick.

Oh, and no nap for Mama yet, but hey, now I can do the seed stitch in knitting.
make_your_move: (momma love)
My youngest daughter S woke us up last night burning up with fever and then she started throwing up. This pattern repeated every couple hours last night, poor thing. Her fever has broke, but she's still out of it and now she's asleep on the couch. Maybe it's going to be a napping day for everyone.

It's time

Aug. 21st, 2008 10:19 am
make_your_move: (crazy bird)
My kids need to go back to school.

make_your_move: (momma love)
Today I'm going to take my kids to the Prince William County Fair for a few hours and see the world through their eyes. We're gonna look at the exhibits and ride the rides and eat a little bit of cotton candy.

Just because we can.
make_your_move: (momma love)
This morning I caught a thread on the Merry Rose (the email tavern for the Kingdom of Atlantia) on someone asking practical ideas for bringing her 8 month old (twins I think) to Pennsic. The responses ranged all over, including one that basically said "don't bother, it's too much work" ... so I thought I'd chime in with some thoughts - because I've basically raised my 4 girls in the SCA and short of a few events that I elected to miss - we go do things as a family. Anyway, here's my response this morning that prompted me to make it a class

My thoughts on bringing kids to Pennsic )

And with the encouragement of my clan ... I decided to make this a reality ...

I've signed up to teach a class at Pennsic this year "Modern Kids/Babies in the Current Middle Ages" with the lovely [ profile] mellyflori giving me my class description:

How-tos on safety, garb, hydration, and keeping parents, babies, and kids sane and entertained at Pennsic and other SCA camping events.

So ... I'm interested to hear what other SCA/Renn/reenactors & like folk say about raising kids. All hints, tips and tricks are welcome!
make_your_move: (bellydance Mym (2)_)
[ profile] lapsedagnostic and I split the weekends so that one of us always gets a sleep-in morning. I get Saturdays and he gets Sundays. And, a lot of the time, for one reason or another, we end up getting up about 1/2 the time to do stuff, usually with the kids .... So, this morning he gets up to take T to a chess tournament and tells the 2 youngest not to come get me to until 10 (which just doesn't happen most of the time.... really they're 8 and 7 - but they do try). Except for this morning.

This morning I woke up slighty before 9 - picked up the newest Anita Blake book Blood Noir which I started last night. I read in the quiet of the morning until the first hand on the doorknob at 9:45. Shortly after, my prom-going Widgeon came and snuggled me in bed. A little while later she brought me tea and a bagel w/ salmon & cream cheese and I finished my book at 11:10.

What a decadent morning, and a lovely way to start a really busy day. Yay!
make_your_move: (momma love)
Thank you Steven Sondheim

Children Will Listen

How do you say to your child in the night?
Nothing's all black, but then nothing's all white
How do you say it will all be all right
When you know that it might not be true?
What do you do?

Careful the things you say
Children will listen
Careful the things you do
Children will see and learn
Children may not obey, but children will listen
Children will look to you for which way to turn
Co learn what to be
Careful before you say "Listen to me"
Children will listen

Careful the wish you make
Wishes are children
Careful the path they take
Wishes come true, not free
Careful the spell you cast
Not just on children
Sometimes the spell may last
Past what you can see
And turn against you
Careful the tale you tell
That is the spell
Children will listen

How can you say to a child who's in flight
"Don't slip away and i won't hold so tight"
What can you say that no matter how slight Won't be misunderstood
What do you leave to your child when you're dead?
Only whatever you put in it's head
Things that you're mother and father had said
Which were left to them too
Careful what you say
Children will listen
Careful you do it too
Children will see
And learn, oh guide them that step away
Children will glisten
Tample with what is true
And children will turn
If just to be free
Careful before you say
"Listen to me"

Careful the things you say
Children will listen
Careful the things you do
Children will see and learn
make_your_move: (idiot problem)
Good Karma - getting a call from my ex and his wife who are all up in arms about Widgeon's grades and the agreements made about getting her drivers license. Despite how upset and vicious she got about my kid I didn't engage in it with her and remained calm and reasonable the whole discussion, both last night and this morning.

Bad Karma - finding it intensely funny how mad and frustrated Lisa got because I wouldn't lose my temper and get into with her.

make_your_move: (Hell on Wheels)
And for my totally ADD moment of the day ... the girls and I were in the process of putting away laundry and I suggested they make the bed so they had a clean place to put the laundry. Which lead to changing the sheets on the bed before they were made. That lead to going through the closet to find room to hang stuff. Which then lead to going through all of their drawers to sort out, throw out, give away and then refold the and put back in the drawers the stuff that stays. The benefit? Knowing what they need (clothing wise) so we can do some inexpensive back-to-school shopping at the local thrift store.

Two and a half bags of donations in the hall then lead to a serendipitous call from the National Childrens Center asking me if I had anything to donate. Yay! Their truck comes next week Thursday and off it will happily go :)
make_your_move: (armchair traveler)
I love the library. Have since I was a little girl. Super bookstores were not a thing when I was growing up, although we did have a few great independent bookstores like Vroman's (where I worked for awhile as a young adult) Even so, books cost money - which we didn't have a lot of growing up. So being the avid bookworm that I was, the library was heaven to me. There was the Altadena Public Library tucked away in the trees. Shady and quiet and always delightfully cold. The decor at the time was very 70's ... burnt orange carpet, brown overstuffed chairs, sunken areas to walk down into and get lost in a book. They had a maximum number of books that you could check out - a rule they bent for me because I would go through books so fast that I was there practically every other day.

There was one of the Pasadena public libraries on Washington close to my elemenary school. It was very refined - a medium size Georgian style buidling of brick and tall windows, hard wood floors and chairs of wood and leather. I would sit in the window there, soaking in the sun and happy to be in the air conditioning. It was there I first learned about book reports and what the hell plagiarism meant. (Thank you Mrs. Bickel my 5th grade teacher for giving me a second chance on telling you about Amelia Earhart).

Then there was the main branch of the Pasadena Library, a place so grand and impressive that it actually was the setting for a Stephen King short story from his Four Past Midnight Book called "The Library Police". This place was like a church for me. The entry way was all dark, inlaid mediterranean wood and arches into many different rooms. It was always quiet. Like no one ever talked in there ... which wasn't true, but it was a place that you didn't want to raise your voice above a whisper. And you had to earn the right to check out certain books from that branch. Something I aspired to early on as a small child and then got to do before I was even a teen. The reference books were kept in a separate room and they all were beautiful, quality books bound in leather and brought to you by a librarian.

I spent many of my summers in the library, happily lost in a book while my friends were away on summer vacations or playing somewhere. I wasn't lonely ... not if I had a book. And the world was not ever too boring, not if the library was open. It was like be welcomed into the house of a friend.

Now I take my children to the library. With it's muted grays and whites and blues and the windows in the roof that bring in the sun and light. It's a friendly open place. Welcoming to families, adults & students. The kids run off to their sections while I get a little time to peruse whatever strikes my fancy. We spent a happy hour this morning each lost in our own happy place finding books that appeal to our inner fancies. I am happy to have passed this love of the library on to my own children.

This particular summer love goes on and on and on.
make_your_move: (momma love)
This is the first Mother's Day in 16 years that I haven't been home with the kids during the day. We got home late last night and here's what I found.....


I am truly lucky and blessed with our 4 completely amazing, wonderful girls.
make_your_move: (momma love)
Yesterday in the mail we received a letter from the National Young Scholars Program regarding our 2nd daughter T who is 9 years old and in the 3rd grade. She was nominated by her teacher to this program. Academically T is pretty advanced for her age. She reads at a 9th grade level and hits the 97 to 99% for practically all of the standardized tests.

We've looked over the material and it looks interesting, but I don't know anyone who's either been in this program, or had their kid in this program. And it is breathtakingly expensive for a one week camp. I'm torn because I would love to provide her with this opportunity, but we'd have to scratch up a significant amount of $$ to do so, and it's hard to judge when I don't have any frame of reference to compare this too.

make_your_move: (Hell on Wheels)
*laundry (lots and lots of loads)
*baking brownies
*bellydancing with beautiful wimmins
*birthday - my daughter M turned 7 yesterday!
*various outings for various reasons with [ profile] ani_moore, [ profile] mellyflori and [ profile] wilfulcait
*birthday party prep for the weekend
*house picking up for arrival of in-laws today
*late night rehearsals for my daughter A who's play opens tonight
*pennsic planning

Is it time to go back to sleep yet?
make_your_move: (Default)
So my poor teenager woke yesterday with a fever and a sore throat, so I kept her home and she slept. And slept, and slept, and would only wake long enough for me to get some soup and water into her, and then? More sleeping. Got her up at 5:45 for a bit of dinner, she went to bed at 7 *pm*. This morning a trip to the pediatrician confirmed my suspicion of Strep *poor baby*. Antibiotics have been acquired, as has yogurt and some popsicles. And now, after being up for awhile, she's sleeping ... Doesn't matter how old they are, she still my little girl and I'm content to be close and watch her sleep.

Funny enough, I went looking at my archives and she was real sick last year about this time. Two of the 3 little ones also seem to have something bothering there stomachs *sigh*. And I may have a client going into labor.

Calgon? Please?
make_your_move: (tea & laptop)
So [ profile] lapsedagnostic had a day off he had to take before the end of the year ... we planned this day off 3 weeks ago. S, our youngest has had a cold (you can see where this is going, right?!) for a the last week or two. Last night she woke up with a new symptom. This morning I took her to the doctor -- diagnosis - atypical upper respiratory walking pneumonia. So, home today, no shopping, not going to get done anytime soon *sigh*

Upside though, home with the hubby and the girlie today. Maybe I'll get more beaded presents for the teachers done.


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